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I think generally, when it comes to film, the fantasy genre tends to be pretty... not good. There are a few gems however. Here are my favorite fantasy flicks:
The Dark Crystal
The Bride with White Hair
Conan: The Barbarian
Krull (laughably executed but some fascinating visuals/ideas)
The City of Lost Children
Zu Warriors
A Chinese Ghost Story
The Dark Crystal
The Bride with White Hair
Conan: The Barbarian
Krull (laughably executed but some fascinating visuals/ideas)
The City of Lost Children
Zu Warriors
A Chinese Ghost Story
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Re: Fantasy film?
Wed, August 25, 2004 - 1:57 AMGreat choices! I'm going to add Labyrinth, Lady Hawke and Time Bandits to that... -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 2:05 AMI'm gonna go with:
Time Bandits
Adventures of Baron Munchausen
Pathfinder
The Dark Crystal
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 5:57 PMAh, yes, I forgot all about Munchausen! Terry Gilliam's finest, IMO. However, I find Time Bandits to be one of his weaker efforts.
I also can't believe I forgot about Miyazaki, yes, everything I've seen by him is wonderful. Y'all should also check out his World War II film Grave of the Fireflies, it is guaranteed to make you cry.
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 2:07 AMAnd Legend. Particularly if you like Tangerine Dream. And Tim Curry...he's still the best Big D I've ever seen. ;) -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 3:06 AMI love Legend. But I love it for the Unicorns and a long haired Tom Cruise. :D *hehe* -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 9:00 AMdo animated films come into the genre, and how are you definiing "fantasy" - if it's the standard definition - then let's see if i can come up with anything new in my list
Labyrinth
Dark Crystal
I'm trying to think of a good king arthur movie and i just can't - that's sad
how about robin hood men in tights? Comedy fantasy?:)
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 6:52 PMI loved the unicorns! That first scene where they're in the stream is so cool - that's one of my favorite parts!lol
I recently heard Tom Cruise's appearance being described as "slightly feral" - they picked a good one for the part! ;)
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 11:53 PMI love Legend for Mia Sara and that fairy girl and the red bad guy ; >
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 9:00 AMhow about the films of the guy whose name i can't pronounce
spirited away - for sure is fantastical -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 9:23 AMI wouldn't have added anime, just because there are so many "fantastical" animes out there. Princess Mononoke, among others... -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 6:16 PMMononoke and Spirited Away are both by Miyazaki Hayao, btw.
Yes, anime has alot of fantasy. I don't think that should rule it out here, though, it just means Japanese film-makers do alot more work in the fantasy genre than their western counter-parts. The same is true of the many Hong Kong swordplay fantasies.
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 9:13 AMUm. How about LOTR?
Wizard of Oz
Princess Bride
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 9:17 AMYes - the princess bride
and the partner to the wizard of oz - the funky "Wiz"
Willow? Some people like willow right? I"m not one of them, but someone likes them. -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 9:21 AMDefinately Willow, I love that movie. How about the Last Unicorn? As far as King Arthur stories go, I have to admit many of them are bad, but I really enjoyed the Mists of Avalon miniseries, did anyone else? -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 9:53 AMLabyrinth
Spirited away (awesome)
Mid Summer Night's Dream -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 12:47 PMI think it would be necessary to add anime/animation to the roster of fantasy films. It's the only area of feature length films in which the fantasy genre has really been handled well or with any concern for story.
I would agree with the previous caller's idea of adding Miyazaki.
I went to the museum in his studio when I was in Tokyo, and it's AMAZING. You can see all the original sketches from his anime--Princess Mononoke, Sprited Away, etc.--and there's all these little dust balls everywhere. -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 6:56 PMNow that everyone's talking about it, I'd definitely add anime to the list of fantasy. It's so full of layered meaning - it seems like every time I watch "Ghost In The Shell", I pick up something slightly different.
Princess Mononoke was a lot darker than I expected - I was surprised at the intensity - but it's up there with my favorite movies now... -
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 7:34 PMevery time i watch ghost in the shell i say wow - i could be readin neuromancer :)
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 11:00 PMI wonder if they'll ever attempt Neuromancer as a movie? If they do, I sure hope they don't botch it like they did Johnny Mnemonic... ;p -
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 7:54 AMwilliam gibson has said that they haven't made neuromancer because the cost to make the movie would be astronomical. I also think he owns, at least part of, the movie rights, so he will be very iffy about he he cedes control to.
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 12:08 PMI always preferred Return to Oz... Wizard annoys the shit out of me for some reason.
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Wed, August 25, 2004 - 6:02 PMi'm of mixed opoinion on the harry potter films - so i'm not sure where they fit.
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 11:29 AMIf we can add anime to the list, then certainly we can add the Harry Potter movies... c'mon...
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 11:33 AMoh no - it wasn't that i didn't think they fit - my problem is that i'm still not sure (even though i enjoy the movies) that the movies SHOULD be made.
I think some of the enjoyment in a quality book is the imagining, wondering what characters and events look like, and it's key, to me, to the mental development of a child. Movies remove that imagining generally because they give you a fixed image. So that's my "issue" with the potter movies :) -
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 11:41 AMI can see that. I'd hate for the Abhorsen trillogy to be made into films.
I'd see them, but they could never match what's in my head.
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 11:42 AMI could see that... I would only hope that the kids had read the novels before the movies were made... but, yeah, that does suck actually, because the first movie was made, then more books were written, and from that movie on, Harry looked like.... well, Harry.
Wouldn't this be true then for the The Lord of the Rings too. I mean there were a whole bunch of new fans following the first movie, and they only then began to read the series. I am not really sure what my point is, although I guess the same question could be applied to several movies that were adapted from several books.
I don't think the Harry issue is a new one, it just seems that way because it is targeting a younger, and more impressionable crowd. In fact, the crowd we all once were before we became fantasy geeks. I don't know what Xanth would look like in a movie, but I love the way I created it in my imagination. -
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 12:01 PMyes it would be true about the LOTR but never have (probably never will) read them
and no it's not a new thing
if you have a book you love, a movie really can't ever help you love it any more, it will just make it less enjoyable probably because upon future readings your memory of the place you loved is contaminated by the movie.
It's just that harry potter is SO popular and has led to a "resurgence" in kids reading (which is important to me in general) that i use it as an example.
The same can be said for the series of unfortunate events movie, we will always see the evil uncle however jim carrey looks in the future.
Most of the fantasy series i like, like darren shan or artemis fowl, have very little chance of becmoing movies though :) -
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Fri, August 27, 2004 - 5:12 PMI just thought I might weigh in . . .
I was working full time at a book store when all of the Harry Potter books were released and I can tell you that very little visually was left up to the imagination for children. From the promotional materials to the cover of the books you KNEW what Harry looked like before you read the books, you knew what most of the characters looked like. I'm not slamming this, it's a good way to sell to kids, especially ones who don't like to read, it's just that a lot of that element of inventing the world inside your head was not there, I think. -
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Sun, August 29, 2004 - 12:54 AMWhee for a fellow bookbot :) I have to agree that Potter was a bit over done and very little left to the imagination as far as the main characters where concerned--on the other hand, I have also heard over and over again from parents that thier son or daughter who never read all of a sudden can't be torn from these books...whats even better is that thier interest in other similar/fantasy books as ALSO been sparked. So...I think it does more good than anything. Although, as a child I would have been terribly pissed about the whole situation, seeing as I had an overactive imagination and needed some sort of outlet. -
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Sun, August 29, 2004 - 1:08 AMI find something vaguely creepy about the success of Harry Potter, and the way it is marketed. It seems to me that it's been really shoved down our throats. Everyone, I mean EVERYONE tells me how I HAVE to read Harry Potter. Meanwhile, movie posters are plastered everywhere and when I go to the bookstore there are big piles of the latest book. I think there is something very wrong going on. Great, kids are reading... but to what end? -
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Sun, August 29, 2004 - 8:57 AMI read it because my nephew asked me to. This was the first book and before all the hype. I was relunctant because he was a kid and I couldn't imagine what I could get out of a kid's book. I was pleasantly surprised. It was a fun read--a romp. I've since read 3 of the others and have enjoyed them all. The marketing hype is a shame, but simply the result of a greedy distributors and studios.
I can see why people view the books suspiciously because of the marketing hype. Harry Potter ain't no Milly Vanilli.
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Sun, August 29, 2004 - 11:23 AMI think they are fun--I tried to get a friend of mine to read them, but he insists its a cult and claims that in 15 years, when Rowling's son tries to take over the world, *he* will see it and fight, but the rest of us will be blinded by Potter ;) -
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Mon, August 30, 2004 - 9:36 AMyour friend needs to get a slight grip on reality.
it's not so much a cult as a way of life, a guiding source that helps us all live proper lives and accept our roles as muggles -
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Mon, August 30, 2004 - 1:18 PMSpeak for yourself, John!!
I'm at least a half blood!!! :P
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Mon, August 30, 2004 - 4:54 PMI agree it's wonderful that Harry Potter got millions (and I mean millions) of kids who wouldn't normally pick up a book, let alone a fantasy book to read. While I wish it were a different series (maybe Phillip Pullman's?) that sparked it all off, I'm gald it did. Many kids, and by proxy their parents are now acknowledging that there's nothing wrong with fantasy books, or books in general.
I would say the same about the LOTR films. Many parents went to see those films with their kids and walked out liking them ALOT.
Way cool.
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