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Hey there, everybody!
This is a Tribe for readers of fantasy. Aside from the Fantastic Metropolis folks, I didn't see anything fantasy-related, so I created this. Since I'm not a member of the Fantastic Metropolis community at their website (if there is one? There seems to be...), I don't quite know what that's all at so I thought I'd make one that was more... generic, perhaps.
Anyway. Here's a place to talk about all your favorite fantasy authors and related topics. I'm not going to be too draconian about the subject matter, but I will be draconian about meanness. If you can't be gracious, please go play elsewhere.
That said, welcome to the tribe! Who are you, and who are some of your favorite authors?
xo,
Elizabeth
This is a Tribe for readers of fantasy. Aside from the Fantastic Metropolis folks, I didn't see anything fantasy-related, so I created this. Since I'm not a member of the Fantastic Metropolis community at their website (if there is one? There seems to be...), I don't quite know what that's all at so I thought I'd make one that was more... generic, perhaps.
Anyway. Here's a place to talk about all your favorite fantasy authors and related topics. I'm not going to be too draconian about the subject matter, but I will be draconian about meanness. If you can't be gracious, please go play elsewhere.
That said, welcome to the tribe! Who are you, and who are some of your favorite authors?
xo,
Elizabeth
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Fri, August 1, 2003 - 6:04 PMThese words are Tim's, who also goes by JohnnyTest...
It always seems, to me at least, that fantasy novels are a great idea until I pick one up. Anyone else feel this way? That the genre is riddled with the same Lord of The Rings cliches? I've only read a few *great* fantasy novels. Those being: Lord Foul's Bane (a post-modern fantasy epic), The Dark Tower series from Stephen King (hopefully this counts)...at this time I don't recall any others, sadly.
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Fri, August 1, 2003 - 6:06 PMIt's all in your interpretatin, i loved the david edding series, started pawn of prophecy in sixth grade finished the seers at kell (book 10) in my freshman year of college. Susan Cooper and Phillip Pullman are good. Did you read lloyd alexander as a kid? I'm sick of seeing Robert Jordan books, i'll never read them.
Check out a book called the thief lord, and an amazing foray into fantasy literature by pulitzer prize winner michael chabon, summerland, but don't read it if you hate baseball.
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Fri, August 1, 2003 - 10:07 PMIf you want to avoid the stuff that's not Tolkien rip-offs, then kick it old skool with these:
home.epix.net/~wallison/bafs.html
The Ballantine Adult fantasy series was both very influential on later fantasy writers, and contained books that inspired earlier fantasy writers, like CS Lewis and Tolkien. I'm looking to collect and read them all. Many of them are still in print, and at least a few of them are available free on sites like Project Gutenberg. xo, E
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Thu, September 9, 2004 - 5:43 PMPretty nearly anything by Tim Powers, but most especially:
The Anubis Gates
The Stress of Her Regard
On Stranger Tides
Last Call
Declare
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Thu, September 9, 2004 - 6:22 PMMet the guy and his wife. Really nice. Last I heard he was teaching out in San Bernardino, California.
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Fri, August 1, 2003 - 9:51 PMJoe Crow, freelance game writer and voracious specfic reader. Actually, I've been reading a lot of Robert E. Howard's stuff lately. I'm on kind of a "heroic fantasy/sword & sorcery" trip, while I'm outlining what might turn into a barbarian swordsman (actually, barbarian horse archer, but...) novel, getting into the vibe. Also, just finished Lynn Flewelling's new one, "Hidden Warrior". Good stuff, that. -
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Fri, August 1, 2003 - 10:03 PMI'd like to know more about Robert Howard. I just saw THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD and I really enjoyed it. An interesting soul.
xo,
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Tue, August 5, 2003 - 3:15 PMI like my fantasy like I like my coffee. Dark. However, I'm not a big fan of the 100,000 word tomes of today. I prefer my work around the 35k to 60k range. You won't find many works that fit that range, so I read a lot of anthology collections. I think I'm one of those people who love the concept of fantasy, but tend to hate most of the product. Another story with a ranger, elf, and dwarf and I'll probably puke. China Meiville has some good stuff, as well as Tad Williams, Kage Baker, and Matthew Stover. Stover is a last but not least on that list. His fantasy breaks the mold and flushes down the toilet. Very good stuff. Oh, and about me. I write. I write what I would like to read, which is a strange combination of dark fantasy and pseudo-science fiction with somewhat happy endings. Well, they're happy in a Casablanca cynical kind of way. -
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Wed, August 6, 2003 - 11:14 AM// I think I'm one of those people who love the concept of fantasy, but tend to hate most of the product. //
I'd say that's pretty accurate of me, as well. Which is why I tend to look for older works in the genre. There's a lot of stuff being written by folks I really like, though: Jane Yolen, Tanith Lee, Charles deLint, Neil, etc.
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Fri, December 5, 2003 - 12:24 PMI'm thinking I'll try Matthew Stover, from your recommendation here. Have you read Iron Dawn or Jericho Moon? what would you say on these, as fantasy books? i like it that they're based in Israel.
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Thu, September 18, 2003 - 12:22 PMOkie dokie... as a late arrival, I'm a mixed personality-type person. On one hand, I'm a totaly bookworm, grew up on greek and norse mythology, fairytales, and fun children's authors like Ruth Chew, Robin McKinley and Tamora Pierce (in her early days). Then on the other hand, I'm a crazy painter girl, who wants to create amazing things and put it all out there. So, yeah. That's me.
As for favorite authors, Charles De Lint is one, Sheri S. Tepper's become another (though she flows into sci-fi quite a bit), Tanith Lee and Robert Holdstock, Tad Williams, Neil, and various other oldies but goodies. I really enjoy mythos-related stories that relate to structures of belief previously in place. But I also like stories that create entirely new belief structures.
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Mon, November 24, 2003 - 12:50 PMGreetings everyone,
I'm new here and I like fantasy and sci fi equally which is probably why I like to read Piers Anthony so much. Let's see... some of my other favorite authors include Katherine Kurtz, Terry Goodkind, and others...
-Lil
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Sat, December 6, 2003 - 10:50 PMI haven't been reading fantasy as much as I used to, but it's still my favorite fictional genre and what I own most of. I'm not sure why it appeals to me so much whereas I only read a little SF. My favorites are the Narnia Chronicles, Susan Cooper's "The Dark is Rising", Madeleine L'Engle's Wrinkle in Time trilogy, Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" and a bunch of others. The "kids" books are things I return to again and again.
Although a lot of folks seem to consider her writing trashy, I'm a fan of Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series of books. It's not really because I like her actual prose. I just really like the world she created. I'm also a fan of Katherine Kurtz' Deryni series of books (although I think she writes better prose...)
Morgan Llewelyn, R. A. MacAvoy are others
Charles de Lint's stuff is a relatively recent discovery for me and I'm looking forward to reading more of his books. I found him through the Windling/Datlow adult fairy tale anthologies. I'm also trying to delve into Guy Gavriel Kay although it's slow going because his stuff hardly ever shows up used.
de Lint is probably who I'd name as my favorite fantasy author at the present time.
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Sun, December 7, 2003 - 1:09 AMFinally, someone gave some props to the Deryni books.
Hang in the with Guy Gavriel Kay. His stories are amazing. Check them all out, but my personal favorites are the Fionavar Tapestry trilogy, Tigana and Lions of Al-Rassan. -
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Sun, January 18, 2004 - 3:41 PMI love the Deryni series. Great high fantasy! Right now I'm reading Kurtz's St. Patrick's Gargoyle though.
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Mon, January 19, 2004 - 8:25 AMPersonally I like the huge epic series that are several thousand pages. First, because I read really fast and anything under 300 pages goes too quick. Second, the world can be much more in depth when you don't have just one "main" character.
Authors I like: Tad Williams, Sheri S. Tepper, Melanie Rawn, George R.R. Martin, Robert Jordan, C.S. Friedman, Robin Hobb.
I do not like Terry Brooks. I started reading The Sword of Shannara and felt like it was a big Lord of the Rings ripoff.
And as far as Tolkien goes: I loved all the Lord of the Rings movies, and I tried to read the books, but found Tolkien's writing style to be incredibly dull (and slightly condescending). I've never been a fan of the writing styles where you feel like you're listening to a storyteller.
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Mon, January 19, 2004 - 8:27 PMYes. I've read The Sword of Truth series (what's been printed so far). I'm not very happy with The Naked Empire, it was too much political theory and not enough action. I felt like Goodkind was trying to convince us to agree with his own personal views, as opposed to telling a story.
Hopefully the next book in the series will be better. I really liked the first six.
-Lara Amber
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Tue, April 13, 2004 - 3:59 PMI read the first two "Wizards First..." and "Stone of Tears" then started but never finished "Blood of the Fold." I must say that I thought "Wizards" was brilliant. But the two after seemed to have the same plot line and I really lost interest.
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Mon, April 12, 2004 - 8:59 PMI too am new here.
I also like the large fantasy works as the worlds and characters are much more developed. I was given The Hobbit by my mother when I was 10 or 11 and have been hooked on fantasy ever since.
I started reading Robert Jordan but was so disgusted with the last few books where he made us read a few thousand pages with very little movement in the story. I still have not been able to convince myself to give him another shot and read the latest book 'Crossroads of Twilight'. I suppose I will pick the series up again when (IF) he ever finishes the series for no other reason than to make all the time I invested in the first 9 books worthwhile.
I have yet to read George R. R. Martin or Terry Goodkind. They are on my list.
I started with the Shannara series, but they just did not hold my interest beyond the first few books.
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Tue, April 13, 2004 - 3:46 PMI agree with you wholeheartedly re your opinion on Terry Brooks
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Sat, April 10, 2004 - 4:51 PMHi everyone.....
I've been avidly reading fantasy as long as I could remember (suffice to say, fifteen years tops) and I've already got an inkling as to what makes good and bad stuff in the genre.
Here are some of my personal faves (and a coupla rants):
1) Michael Moorcock - he's BLOODY genius...Elric of Melnibone is bar none of the greatest characters visualized for high fantasy...so contemporarily realized (a scrawny albino sorcerer who appears to be more a victim than a master of his sorceries)
...so gut-wrenchingly real (he's hooked on herbs that keep him up, not to mention that bloodthirsty Stormbringer)
2) Fritz Leiber - godsresthissoul, he was there way way before Herc & Xena!!!! Fafhrd the Northern barbarian seeking civilization meets up with The Gray Mouser, sneaky Suthern'r cutpurse in the city of Lankhmar (where anythin' & everythin' could happen!!!!!!!) and together they create a whole new genre by wining, wenching and slinging swords. Yep, rollickin' good fun and not a wee folk or a dragin in sight!!!!
On the other hand....no offense (to Shannara devotees), but I'm kinda let down by Terry Brooks' Shannara series - many parts and chars appear to be Tolkien rip-offs!!! Along the same lines, I've ceased to be impressed by the works of Tolkien himself having seen all three LOTR films - they've started to become too "mass-market" for me. Nevertheless, I still hold JRRT much respect and especially Peter Jackson for his excellent work in shepherding the otherwise unfilmable trilogy to the world's cineplexes.
And...yes...spare me Harry Potter and the horde of YA wizard wannabes....
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Thu, June 24, 2004 - 6:16 PMhi there fantasy geeks. meemee here. i'm so glad i found you. (tears of joy)
here is meemee's ice breaker question. a poll of sorts.
i have to be careful of my phrasing because i don't wanna be a spoiler...
how many of you read beyond the "sex" scene in lord foul's bane? who stopped reading?
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Thu, June 24, 2004 - 7:19 PMI read the whole thing, and although I thought Donaldson's take on rape was ridiculous, I have had the opportunity since to get to know him a bit, and he's a really nice man. He was just a)misinformed and b)it was 1977.
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Thu, June 24, 2004 - 7:24 PMthe first bit was fantastic and really affected me. the phrase "you are in perdition". spooky. -
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Thu, June 24, 2004 - 7:28 PMHis parents were missionaries in a leper colony and he grew up around lepers. It gave him insight into a very different sort of character, that's for sure. -
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Sun, June 27, 2004 - 7:25 AMI read the entire first book, twice, and am halfway through the second. I really liked it, I really liked the concept and I think it brought a huge weight down upon the whole Fish-Out-Of-Water-Thrust-Into-A-World-I-Don't-Understand fantasy genre.
Covenant's entire existence depends on him being rooted in the real world, he couldn't have fantasies, or delusions because he could very well die because of it. Now having someone displaced into an utterly unreal world is perfect because he can't, literally cannot, accept it.
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Tue, August 24, 2004 - 2:09 PMI came to both trilogy in a weird way. I couldn't find Lord Foul's Bane and so, breaking one of my major cardinal rules, started with the second book The IllEarth War. Thus, the infamous "sex" scene that made many a reader throw the first book across the room was just background material to me.
It wouldn't be until after I finished The Power that Preserves before I read Lord Foul's Bane. By that time it had no impact on me (and would not have, anyway, if I had read the book first unless it meant to titillate which would have made me send the book out the window.)
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Mon, August 23, 2004 - 9:36 AMHi,
New to the tribe here.
Uh, my name's Joel. Been reading fantasy steadily for the last decade or so (was more of a sf fan before).
Uh, current favorite authors:
Robin Hobb
Lynn Flewelling
Lawrence Watt-Evans
Holly Lisle
Patricia Bray
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Tue, August 24, 2004 - 7:07 PMHello,
I'm Rick. I'm a writer and an avid reader.
I am a fan of Harry LeBlanc, China Mieville, Ursula LeGuin, Connie Willis, Stephen King (DT series), Eleanor Arneson, Michael Chabon, George R.R. Martin, Neil Gaiman, ect. . .
I live in Minneapolis currently and love the local bookstores, authors, and the writing community. Also, I often go to SciFi/Fantasy Conventions.
Nice to join this Tribe.
peace.
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Tue, August 24, 2004 - 7:37 PMHi all - I'm new here! :)
I grew up on sci-fi/fantasy since my family's very big into reading. Some of my favs are: David Eddings (liked the Belgariad, not big on the Mallorean), Jane Yolen (Sister Light/Sister Dark), The Wrinkle in Time series, The Lord of the Rings (read all of them by 5th grade, still have to go back and read The Silmarillion), Anne McCaffrey, John Carter of Mars series, The Naria Chronicles...those are just a few off the top of my head. I could go on and on... ;) -
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Tue, August 24, 2004 - 7:38 PMDuh - I meant "the Narnia Chronicles".lol -
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Tue, August 24, 2004 - 11:24 PMI would say if you'd like to avoid the whole "good v. evil", prophetic hero saves the world type stuff . . .
Robert Howard (particularly Conan and Solomon Kane)
Fritz Leiber's Ffhard and Gray Mouser/Lankhmar stories (these are by far my FAVORITE fantasy)
Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun
Or if you want new twists on the prophetic hero, good v. evil thing:
A.A. Attanasio's Grail series (an incredible retelling of the myth of Arthur, I won't give it away, but the way that he works out Merlin being half demon is freaking amazing)
Phillip Pullman's His Dark Materials
Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere and American Gods
China Mieville's King Rat
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Tue, August 24, 2004 - 11:39 PMI started out reading CS Lewis but I can't say he is a big influence for me. Soon I began reading darker "adult" fantasy, and it's dark fantasy that most captures my interest. Tolkien bores me to tears, and I feel far more compelled by the complex, lived-in, multi-cultural worlds of Robert E. Howard, Michael Moorcock, or Fritz Leiber. Also, I'm a big time Lovecraft fan. Fairy tales are another staple in my fantasy reading. Grimm's never cease to provide ideas for me. Curently I'm reading Angela Carter's The Bloody Chamber, a collection of her reworkings of fairy tales. -
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Tue, August 24, 2004 - 11:44 PMI suppose also worth mentioning are the occasional Chinese ghost stories or fantastic tales that I read, which I tend not to think of as fantasy but which qualify in every way.
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Sat, September 4, 2004 - 7:54 PMHi. New to this Tribe, moderately new to Tribe itself.
I primarily enjoy video games, fiction of all kinds (though primarily sci-fi and fantasy), and pen-and-paper roleplaying games.
Favorite authors: Hm. Many, many; perhaps too many to list. A short mentioning of a few would be: Brust, Card, Cherryh, Friedman, Gaiman, Gemmell, Gibson, Kay, Martin, Niven, Samura, and Zelazny. Other appreciated authors would be: Anthony, Asprin, Baudino, Bear, Brin, Burroughs, Clarke, Coe, Feist, Haydon, Herbert, Hughart, Kidd, King, Lackey, Leiber, Lewis, McCaffery, Moorcock, Rice, Saberhagen, Sawyer, Stephenson, Tolkien, Wurts, and Zahn. There may also be some I forgot. :D
Oh, and a quick note on Terry Brooks: I found the same problem with Sword of Shannara that was mentioned above... But my fiance says that the other books in the Shannara series are a *lot* less Tolkien-derivative, and I tend to believe her. :D Also, his Magic Kingdom of Landover series is pretty fun; we both enjoyed those.